Thursday, February 7, 2008

Shalom over Emet

The Talmud teaches us that HaShem's seal is emet, Truth, and that His name is shalom, Peace. His name is certainly closer to His essence that His seal. That means that although Emet is important, one must be prepared to compromise and not antagonize for the sake of peace.

My decision is that I will refrain from posting overt criticisms of Christianity. I will post about Torah and if that contradicts a Christian belief, so be it. I invite any discussion as long as it remains civil. I will continue to comment and argue at Messianic "Jewish" sites, although more calmly. No more name-calling, although my opinions remain unchanged.

I will take a cue from the rabbis who said: "Be a disciple of Aaron; Love peace and pursue peace, love the creations [man] and draw them close to the Torah."

May we all grow strong in the Torah.


Papa Frank said...

Bring it!!!

Rita Loca said...

In answer to your question at my site:
I may not consider Mormons to be Christians but they certainly have the right to believe whatever they wish.( I actually preferred Romney as my candidate!)
I do not feel that I showered you with anger!! I am always upset whenever I feel another person is not being shown civility and are not allowed free soul liberty.
I do know that Messianic Jews in Israel are indeed persecuted. It bothers me that a country such as Israel does not allow them to worship freely but are often left without homes and lose jobs over this.
I was never angry at you, Bar. I do feel you purposely chose wording and graphics to anger Christians, which I find a bit childish, but it is your blog and you are a child!!!
A very bright, intelligent child who has taught me much!!! Some of the other commenters where way over the top, even mentioning 'KILLING missionaries'. That should anger any freedom loving person!!!!

Anonymous said...

And I'm sorry if I angered you jungle mom. I do feel missionaries have no place in Israel but then again, we have a left wing, suicidal gov't in place for the time being.

About missiories being fired from work, and not having a place to live, I must say I lived there and that's purely your speculation.

Mad Zionist said...

Shalom and emet do not need to be mutually exclusive. One will bring the other. Keep bringing it.

Deborah said...

1 Thus says the LORD:
“ Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
3 Do not let the son of the foreigner
Who has joined himself to the LORD
Speak, saying,
“ The LORD has utterly separated me from His people”;
Nor let the eunuch say,
“ Here I am, a dry tree.”
4 For thus says the LORD:
“ To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,
5 Even to them I will give in My house
And within My walls a place and a name
Better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name
That shall not be cut off.
6 “ Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
8 The Lord GOD, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says,
“ Yet I will gather to him
Others besides those who are gathered to him.”
(Isaiah 56:1-8)

G-d bless you, BK! I look forward to your posts... you are so knowledgeable! Teach Torah to us all... the Word of our G-d shall stand for ever!


Rita Loca said...

It actually has been covered on the Israeli news a few times. I also have friends living there who have confirmed this to me. Not missionaries, just Messianic Jews.

Big Daddy Jew said...

Bring it, BK....whether here or at my blog. Either way, the truth of Torah will always prevail in any debate with any person, because the Torah will stand on its own.

I love your blog!

Anonymous said...

Achi, we only compromise Emet for Shalom if it is for the sake of our brothers, never ever for the Goyim.

If you had argued I follow the Meiri and consider the Notsrim Ben Noach if an imperfect variety that would have been one thing, but you are admitting you believe them to be engaged in Avodah Zara, what reason do you have then for backing down, and these incidents that followed your posts and their reaction should show you the value of such alliances.

JM, Baruch Hashem that the Messianics are persecuted, may they be driven out of Eretz Yisrael and never allowed to return. Israel is not America it is not set up to be a mediocre copy of Times Square but a Jewish State with all that implies, Messianics, who are almost never actually Jews anyway, Baruch Hashem, have no place in our country.

Papa Frank said...

KL -- I believe that it is God who decides who has a place in Israel and not you. And praise be to God that He is of infinite wisdom and not finite thinking.

Anonymous said...

Kahane Loyalist,
Who are the 'Goyim'?

Anonymous said...

Frank, as I have said to you many times already, Hashem has already revealed his will through the Torah, and though your ancestors did steal parts of the Torah baruch Hashem they didnt get it all, which also leads to the comical misinterpretations the notsrim make.

Goyim is the word used to refer to non-Jews

Papa Frank said...

Thank you for yet another display of finite thinking instead of agreeing that God is of infinite wisdom. By the way, for all you know my ancestors are Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Anonymous said...

No Frank unless your a Jew you have no ties to the Avot, please for your own sake stop trying to pretend you have any Torah you just come off as a fool, its not personel its just as me, and BK, have tried seemingly without success to explain to you, you dont have a Jewish soul or Torah Shebaal Peh, so you lack even the potential to understand the Torah.

Papa Frank said...

I know God who gave the Torah and who gives meaning to the Torah. All understanding comes from Him and not from being a Jew as you would have people believe. God created me in His image and that is where I derive my worth and my ability to understand and discern. Thanks for playing though -- try again hater.

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